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		<title>Comment on The Heartland by morts</title>
		<link>http://www.spinspanner.com/2011/07/the-heartland/comment-page-1/#comment-1061</link>
		<dc:creator>morts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 06:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You write too beautifully - and too seldom. This punched me in the nads, as your stuff often does... more so because the suject and subjects are so near to my heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write too beautifully &#8211; and too seldom. This punched me in the nads, as your stuff often does&#8230; more so because the suject and subjects are so near to my heart.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Little Engine That Could by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah!

I remember taking this very same Little Engine with you to find a five star restaurant at the top of some skyscraper in Cape Town.  We planned to conceal the battered &quot;Hellmobile&quot; just around the corner from our destination, but when we drove into the valet line of a nearby hotel to ask for directions, we found we were in the right place, and could not avoid the car being valeted, cracked windshield and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah!</p>
<p>I remember taking this very same Little Engine with you to find a five star restaurant at the top of some skyscraper in Cape Town.  We planned to conceal the battered &#8220;Hellmobile&#8221; just around the corner from our destination, but when we drove into the valet line of a nearby hotel to ask for directions, we found we were in the right place, and could not avoid the car being valeted, cracked windshield and all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Little Engine That Could by Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.spinspanner.com/2010/11/the-little-engine-that-could/comment-page-1/#comment-336</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 12:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>honda 4x4!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>honda 4&#215;4!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Little Engine That Could by morts</title>
		<link>http://www.spinspanner.com/2010/11/the-little-engine-that-could/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>morts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eeeish? NO Xhosa? I thought I was in trouble! I can speak a smattering - the kind that no doubt has the &#039;true-bloods&#039; sniggering politely into their aprons in a fascinating parody of face wiping.

I do truly want to get hold of a language course, so that I&#039;m able to share more freely with the Homelanders.

Unitl then - the Xhosa are mercifully patient souls, with hearts as big as the continent, so I&#039;m generally suffered with grace while I stumble over the words ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eeeish? NO Xhosa? I thought I was in trouble! I can speak a smattering &#8211; the kind that no doubt has the &#8216;true-bloods&#8217; sniggering politely into their aprons in a fascinating parody of face wiping.</p>
<p>I do truly want to get hold of a language course, so that I&#8217;m able to share more freely with the Homelanders.</p>
<p>Unitl then &#8211; the Xhosa are mercifully patient souls, with hearts as big as the continent, so I&#8217;m generally suffered with grace while I stumble over the words ;-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Algebra Has a Devil for a Sidekick by Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 22:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I proposed the overthrow of the Iranian government, by force&quot;

Because that worked out so well for the Afghans and Iraqis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I proposed the overthrow of the Iranian government, by force&#8221;</p>
<p>Because that worked out so well for the Afghans and Iraqis?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Algebra Has a Devil for a Sidekick by GaryM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ivo, is your comment that disease of which it professes to be the cure? It has all the hallmarks of a straw man attack, a fact I was quickly able to verify by means of the link you kindly supplied.

In your article you said &quot;As for Iran, bomb the barbaric lot already&quot;. I would include a dictionary definition for the word &quot;lot&quot;, but that would be asinine. It is your core thesis that violent regime change in Iran is the right and fitting thing to do. 

I pointed out that Iran was far from barbaric and that bombing is a barbaric act.

It really is quite a simple as that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivo, is your comment that disease of which it professes to be the cure? It has all the hallmarks of a straw man attack, a fact I was quickly able to verify by means of the link you kindly supplied.</p>
<p>In your article you said &#8220;As for Iran, bomb the barbaric lot already&#8221;. I would include a dictionary definition for the word &#8220;lot&#8221;, but that would be asinine. It is your core thesis that violent regime change in Iran is the right and fitting thing to do. </p>
<p>I pointed out that Iran was far from barbaric and that bombing is a barbaric act.</p>
<p>It really is quite a simple as that!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Algebra Has a Devil for a Sidekick by Ivo Vegter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivo Vegter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done. I should point out, however, that fabricating an argument out of whole cloth merely so it is easy to demolish is a fairly trivial rhetorical exercise. It is known as a straw man argument, and while it has a venerable tradition in political debate, it does not have any intellectual merit whatsoever. Read up on it sometime: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Then, for your next exercise, try attacking an argument I actually made and that would be worth defending, instead of demolishing some ludicrous invention of your own. (Genocide? Right, then. Not aiming for subtlety, are we?)

If you re-read the column in question, you&#039;ll notice that I was quite explicit that my opposition is to the barbarism of the Iranian theocratic regime. In simpler words, it was about the Iranian government. It was not about the Iranian people, Shiites, Sunnis, Arabs, Persians, Muslims, or anyone else. You may also notice that although you say I raised the &quot;evils of Islam&quot;, I in fact wrote the exact opposite: I do not believe Islam is the problem, I have no particular beef with Islam, and I agree entirely with Khaled Abou El Fadl when he makes the point that Islam is not mutually exclusive with civilised society, and in fact condemns the very barbarity of which the Iranian regime is guilty. You go on to flatly ignore the part where I explicitly agree Christianity has been used to justify barbarism, in order to make the point that it is a mark of civilisation to reject such theocratic barbarism. If you were paying attention, you&#039;d also have seen that I was quite clear about my support for the civilised citizens of Iran who bravely oppose the tyrants that impose their perverse notions of morality on them by force.

I proposed the overthrow of the Iranian government, by force. No less, indeed, but certainly no more. Sorry to disappoint you. Still, you totally pwned that straw man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done. I should point out, however, that fabricating an argument out of whole cloth merely so it is easy to demolish is a fairly trivial rhetorical exercise. It is known as a straw man argument, and while it has a venerable tradition in political debate, it does not have any intellectual merit whatsoever. Read up on it sometime: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man</a></p>
<p>Then, for your next exercise, try attacking an argument I actually made and that would be worth defending, instead of demolishing some ludicrous invention of your own. (Genocide? Right, then. Not aiming for subtlety, are we?)</p>
<p>If you re-read the column in question, you&#8217;ll notice that I was quite explicit that my opposition is to the barbarism of the Iranian theocratic regime. In simpler words, it was about the Iranian government. It was not about the Iranian people, Shiites, Sunnis, Arabs, Persians, Muslims, or anyone else. You may also notice that although you say I raised the &#8220;evils of Islam&#8221;, I in fact wrote the exact opposite: I do not believe Islam is the problem, I have no particular beef with Islam, and I agree entirely with Khaled Abou El Fadl when he makes the point that Islam is not mutually exclusive with civilised society, and in fact condemns the very barbarity of which the Iranian regime is guilty. You go on to flatly ignore the part where I explicitly agree Christianity has been used to justify barbarism, in order to make the point that it is a mark of civilisation to reject such theocratic barbarism. If you were paying attention, you&#8217;d also have seen that I was quite clear about my support for the civilised citizens of Iran who bravely oppose the tyrants that impose their perverse notions of morality on them by force.</p>
<p>I proposed the overthrow of the Iranian government, by force. No less, indeed, but certainly no more. Sorry to disappoint you. Still, you totally pwned that straw man.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I never knew him well by GaryM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 10:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we always have choices, sometimes we can&#039;t see the alternatives as clearly as we might hope, but they are normally there somewhere. Sometimes the wrong choice can seem the right choices in the final analysis... Maybe there is no right choice or wrong choice - just choices made right or wrong retrospectively by the perspectives of the fruit of those choices.

Shri Ramakrishna was once asked by one of his disciples &quot;Swamiji, why is evil in the world?&quot;, to which the mystic replied after due consideration &quot;To thicken the plot&quot;.

Imagine the horror of no horror. Imagine a soup with no meat or salt or spice. I&#039;m not a fan of horror or trauma (I side with Luke Skywalker rather than Darth Vader) but I wonder if you can really know a thing without knowledge of it&#039;s opposite.

Peace to you too, but with a good measure of strife thrown in so that you can truly know peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we always have choices, sometimes we can&#8217;t see the alternatives as clearly as we might hope, but they are normally there somewhere. Sometimes the wrong choice can seem the right choices in the final analysis&#8230; Maybe there is no right choice or wrong choice &#8211; just choices made right or wrong retrospectively by the perspectives of the fruit of those choices.</p>
<p>Shri Ramakrishna was once asked by one of his disciples &#8220;Swamiji, why is evil in the world?&#8221;, to which the mystic replied after due consideration &#8220;To thicken the plot&#8221;.</p>
<p>Imagine the horror of no horror. Imagine a soup with no meat or salt or spice. I&#8217;m not a fan of horror or trauma (I side with Luke Skywalker rather than Darth Vader) but I wonder if you can really know a thing without knowledge of it&#8217;s opposite.</p>
<p>Peace to you too, but with a good measure of strife thrown in so that you can truly know peace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I never knew him well by Jalamba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jalamba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 23:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh God, the horror!

I evaded that whole thing, you know. By luck and chance.

Strange as it is, this is the first time I&#039;ve ever seen, put into words, anything like the trauma that so many friends experienced and never spoke about. 

Perhaps not so strange. Just unexpected. And honestly fitting.

So incredibly tragic.

I can&#039;t ever phrase this appropriately because I was never anywhere close: It was undoubtedly a wrong cause, but it was never your choice at all. 

And I&#039;m speculating, but I don&#039;t think you could even have shared this if not for innocent Debbie. Such sweet sad sorrow.

Dogs of War takes on new meaning...

Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh God, the horror!</p>
<p>I evaded that whole thing, you know. By luck and chance.</p>
<p>Strange as it is, this is the first time I&#8217;ve ever seen, put into words, anything like the trauma that so many friends experienced and never spoke about. </p>
<p>Perhaps not so strange. Just unexpected. And honestly fitting.</p>
<p>So incredibly tragic.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t ever phrase this appropriately because I was never anywhere close: It was undoubtedly a wrong cause, but it was never your choice at all. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m speculating, but I don&#8217;t think you could even have shared this if not for innocent Debbie. Such sweet sad sorrow.</p>
<p>Dogs of War takes on new meaning&#8230;</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whale Trail Revisited by Errol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Errol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Magic Moments!!!</description>
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